Drain relocation
Can the sink actually move, and what happens to the budget if it cannot
Of every decision in a kitchen remodel, this is the one that most often turns a predictable job into an open-ended one. Moving a sink is not moving a faucet. The waste line has to fall continuously all the way to where it meets the existing stack, and a floor only has so much depth to give it.
Can the drain physically get there
Derived feasibility
Not inside this floor
The drain needs 5.13 inches of vertical room and the floor offers 4.58. It is short by 0.54 inches, so this move cannot be made inside the existing floor at 0.25 inch per foot.
Trades this move brings in Plumber
- At this slope the furthest the trap can travel inside the floor is about 8.8 feet. Shortening the move to that distance is usually cheaper than every alternative below.
- The alternatives are a dropped soffit under the ceiling below, sistered or engineered joists, or a sewage ejector. All three are larger jobs than the sink.
- The vent has to move with the fixture. Re-venting is what turns a one-day plumbing item into a three-day one, because the vent has to reach a stack or the roof and it has its own routing rules.
- Running across the joists means boring every joist in the path. Each bore has to sit inside the safe zone, which is why only a fraction of the joist depth counts as usable here.
The arithmetic, in full
- Required fall. The trap moves 11 feet and the line must drop 0.25 inches for every foot it travels, so it needs 2.75 inches of vertical drop end to end.
- Depth the pipe occupies. Add the outside diameter of the pipe and its fittings, 2.375 inches, giving 5.13 inches of vertical space the floor has to contain.
- Depth the floor offers. Running across joists, only part of each joist depth is available, because a bore has to stay away from the top and bottom edges. That gives 3.08 inches, plus 1.50 inches of build-up above the joists, for 4.58 inches.
- The margin. 4.58 minus 5.13 is -0.54 inches. Positive means it fits. Negative means the move, at this slope, does not happen inside this floor.
- The useful inversion. Rearranged, the furthest the trap can travel and still fit is 8.8 feet. That number is worth more than the verdict, because it tells you where to put the sink instead.
What actually costs money when the answer is no
Opening a ceiling below
If the room underneath is finished, the drain route runs through somebody's living room ceiling. The plumbing itself might be a day. The ceiling repair, the texture match, the paint and the fact that the room has to be emptied are all separate line items in a room that was never part of the remodel.
Cutting a slab
On grade there is no cavity at all, so the line goes below the concrete. That means saw-cutting a trench the length of the run, breaking out and removing the spoil, laying and inspecting the new line while the trench is open, then filling, patching and levelling before any floor goes down. It is a specialist sequence with its own inspection hold in the middle of the schedule.
A sewage ejector
Where gravity genuinely cannot be achieved, a pump can move waste uphill. It solves the geometry and introduces a mechanical device with a service life, a power requirement and a failure mode under a kitchen floor. It is a real option and it should be a last one.
Or: move the sink less far
The cheapest fix is almost always to shorten the move. At 8.8 feet or less this drain stays inside the existing floor and the entire category of work above disappears. A sink two feet from where you wanted it, in a kitchen that came in on budget, is a trade most people would take if anyone had put it to them before demolition.
What to do with this answer
- Confirm the joist depth and direction yourself before you accept any plumbing price. A tape measure and a torch settle both.
- Ask the plumber to state, in writing, where the new line ties into the existing stack. The distance to that point is the number this whole page turns on, and it is not always the distance you assumed.
- If the margin above is under an inch, treat the route as unproven until somebody has opened it and looked.
- If this move is going ahead, it changes the trade count and the inspection count on the layout change page and adds days to the schedule.